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Re: Unintended Consequences of Obama Halfway Healt (2.00 / 1)

you didn't give us a loaded poll option?
how is anyone suppose to vote?

but you do realize that this point you aren't actually doing anything anymore to advanced the Health care debate right?


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by TruthMatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 08:38:14 AM EST

Re: Unintended Consequences of Obama Halfway Healt (none / 0)

This is all masturbation. It isn't meant for Obama supporters to care about, it's just rallying Clinton supporters in a place where they know Obama supporters can be riled up. We're long past the point of actual debate.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:24:19 AM EST
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Re: Unintended Consequences of Obama Halfway Healt (none / 0)

I hope they don't think we get riled up, because they are wasting their times if that is their objective


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by TruthMatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:39:00 AM EST
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Isn't that scary that you feel we're past (none / 0)

a place for debate?  

Dear God, what is happening to half of the Democratic Party - anything BO says is wonderful and there is no need for debate?

Even with Jim Cooper driving this truck over the cliff for us?


by CoyoteCreek on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:49:31 AM EST
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Re: Isn't that scary that you feel we're past (none / 0)

I guess you believe the poll questions were objective and neutral.

If you indeed believe that, there's nothing to debate with a person such as yourself, or a person such as the diarist. Because it's you people that don't want to debate anything.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:55:20 AM EST
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Your comment said nothing about (2.00 / 2)

debating a poll.  You said we're long past the time for debate - which scares me to death if you really believe that!


by CoyoteCreek on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:00:38 AM EST
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Re: Your comment said nothing about (none / 0)

You guys are the greatest at putting words in peoples' mouths. The point isn't that legitimate debate is unwelcome, but rather that Architek isn't looking for debate, he's looking to demagogue.


by amiches on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:45:59 AM EST
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You didn't even notice (none / 0)

You didn't even notice that I'm not vcalzone.

Anyway, as I said there's no possibility of discussion with people like the diarist or anyone else who thinks his "poll" was unbiased.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:28:42 PM EST
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Re: Isn't that scary that you feel we're past (none / 0)

No, we're into the portion where we need to be debating what Obama should be running on and reexamining his positions. We are past debating which candidate in the primary has a better position on the issues. That argument has been made and a winner has emerged, even if only by a slim margin.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:36:35 AM EST
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Re: Isn't that scary that you feel we're past (none / 0)

I absolutely think that Obama's platform needs a little bit of shaping going forward. So on that, I think we agree. Obama will adopt some of Clinton's policies, just as if Clinton had won, she'd have taken some ideas from Obama. While this isn't always the case, when the election is this close, the differences in policy must be paid attention to.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:39:39 AM EST
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Obama isn't the nominee yet (none / 0)

I personally don't think he's the strongest candidate.

Even if you completely ignore the incredible dishonesty of his healthcare 'plan'.


Health Care: WHY do we pay MORE and GET LESS?
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/con tent/full/hlthaff.28.1.w1/DC1
by architek on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:33:28 PM EST
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