Baloney!!
How many times do we have to go through this before this nonsense stops? But then again since ths is infested with bots, I guess the nonsense will never stop. It doesnt matter. No one cares what you think and you dont care what I think. Its better that way than your "surrender or die" garbage. you are in no position to tell anyone what to do, just as Im in no position to tell you what to do with your vote in the GE
For most people who have doubts about Obama the last thing it has to with is the clintons or the primaries in fact. What it has to do with is this:
1) what leadership has obama shown in his stay at IL or US senate so far? (dont quote nonsense like co-sponsoring myriad legislation in the US senate or getting tons of favors from Emil jones just so obama could run for the US senate, after jones became the majority leader in IL senate)
he could have shown leadership and conviction through his commitment to progressive principles even at political risk in the past week by not switching his positions on NAFTA, campaign finance or FISA or other issues. Did he do that?
McCain has risked his political neck with his party and the party leadership at least in a few instances in his political career and shown his gumption and demonstrating leadership.
What we need in a president, is a leader, not somebody who lists policy position pablum on his website without any commitment to most of them and acting like a chameleon who changes his position based on the audience he is courting today. I will take a politician who displays leadership, commitment to principles once a while at least than one who has never shown any guts to stand up for something
2) Since he hasnt shown much leadership and no record of any worthwhile achievements anywhere including legislative achievements, has Obama at least advocated for some major cause (progressive or otherwise) like UHC, workers rights, civil liberties, poverty, income inequality or anything at all throughout his public life, even if he wasnt very successful in achieving the end goals? Just like edwards or Hillary or nader or kennedy or feingold or anyone else? Pls show us what he has done that makes him a leader that we can hand over this country to?
3) On the dem policy position blackmail, dont bother with this one. Because as I said earlier, the progressive policy position papers on his website dont indicate that he believes in them, as clearly shown by his own flip flop on many of them in the last week alone. The policies are not worth the papers they are written on, unless the candidate has consistenly shown that he has hte cajones to stand up for them no matter what political cost and no matter what office he is running for. Look at his new found faith in faith based initiatives, after the primaries, right before the GE. Had he really believed in this, he could have advocated or explained to progressives how this was alright. We scorched Bush for faith based initiatives for years. Now that obama says its ok just so he can appeal to the fundies, this becomes OK? I guess even the most vile policy positions now become progressive holy grail just because Obama says so. Thats not a movement. Thats a cult. and a dangerous one for real progressives, not the psuedo Obama cultists who call themselves progressives.
Heck I would have a leader who I dont agree with much in terms of policy positions as president and have him in check by having a congress that is progressive, rather than somebody who has shown no leadership and no commitment to anything other than his own electoral fortune and risked nothing for political ambitions. Although the dem congress has been even worse than Obama in flip flops. So good luck on achieving anything progressive with this kind of dem congress, even if Obama wins by 538 to 0.
I dont care if he has done everything that I indicate below to demonstrate he is a leader, but he should have done something to show he is a leader and will fight for at least some principles. He has failed to do that thus far. And thats why many have difficulty handing him over the keys to WH, not just the strawman nonsense you and your fellow bots construct
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bomb bomb I ran
Thanks to you & yours
I guess McCain pandering to the right is so unusual and so unbelievable, nothing that Obama would do in the primary!! and not to mention obama would do no tough talk when he has to show he passes the commander_in_chief test, like this for example
"Obama said if elected in November 2008 he would be willing to attack inside Pakistan with or without approval from the Pakistani government, a move that would likely cause anxiety in the already troubled region"
Have you heard of the term hypocrisy before? try the dictionary.
Thats all you got? OOh McCain the boogeyman is all you have to vote for the man who is a transformational change agent? I guess all that criticism of the republican fearmongering is only reserved for republicans. As soon as bots do it, now it is the new holy grail of progressivism and it is the hope of the century. Come on try arguing a little more maturely instead of this shitty bomb iran scare.
Start giving reasons for me to vote FOR obama not AGAINST McCain. Im already not likely to vote for McCain. I dont need the savior and revolutionary change agent to tell me the reason to vote for him is to NOT let McCain become the president. sorry no sale on that one.
At some point in this campaign one has to hope Obama will give a reason or two as to why he deserves to be trusted with an enormous responsibility like the White house.
Dressing up your pettiness in "sincere doubts" about Obama is nothing more than self-serving bullshit. If you've ever wondered how people could delude themselves into believing that George W Bush is a good President, then you need look no further than your own "justifications" for helping McCain win. No matter how bad Obama might be, McCain will be worse. IF THE DECADES LONG HISTORY OF REPUBLICAN MISGOVERNANCE HASN'T TAUGHT YOU THAT, THEN YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN A BUSH SUPPORTER.
I guess comprehension isnt your forte! ITs not like you quoted any worthwhile text, but yet another bot bogeyman, blackmail nonsense. Isnt a dem congress in power, unless it changed in the last few days since you wrote your drivel down. So, if obama and the rest of those who enable him claim that we will get a veto proof dem majority, then wont the dems be the governing majority? Well, they can govern if they want to and have the spine to, not withstanding a republican adminstration or impeach the govt and bring about the govt that works
But before we get to any of this, its not a principles be damned, no skills demonstrated, empty suit with a (D) next to his name that can suddenly govern because it is a democratic govt. If you didnt learn anything from the 2006 euphoric election of our very own dem congress then you have learnt nothing.
But then it is clear from your bot quotation, you have learnt nothing worthwhile except the bot manual. dont waste my time with these childish bogeyman garbage
