only took a glance at PUMApac.org to turn up this
Brooklynny:
"There was an article on yahoo news today about Kerry being challenged for the first time in years by Ed O'Reilly and a nice write-up regarding O'Reilly. I think this should be one of our main functions as PUMAs: to actively support, financially and otherwise, challengers to the Democratic traitors who sold us down the river. John Kerry is in the top ten in my book, along with Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd (CT - now implicated in Countrywide mortgage sweetheart deals, etc).
However, I am looking past "party" affiliation and judging future candidates based on their policies, integrity and commitment to democratic principles (small "d"). If some of them are labeled Republicans that no longer is a hindrance to me. Some moderate Republicans may in fact be more in line with my views than extreme conservative Democrats or, for that matter, extreme left-wing Democrats. The bottom line in my decisions is no longer "party." I have learned in this primary that I can no longer expect the D party to be different than the Republican party of the past 2 decades. I want no part of either. I think it's time to reevaluate our prior assumptions in terms of policy, position, etc. The world has changed dramatically in the last decade or so and I feel it's really necessary to take nothing for granted. New creative solutions to our present state of affairs, domestically and internationally, and this can't be done if we just continue with the present simply being an extension of the past Democratic mantra."
Experiment- post something suggesting that you are wavering and might vote for Obama for policy reasons. I've seen the swarm reaction dozens of times
He claimed that some PUMA members want to punish down ticket Democrats who supported Obama.
You asked him to back his claim up.
He provided a quote from a PUMA talking about punishing Democrats who supported Obama.
What's so hard to understand?
... there are some very professional McCain supporters who swarm whenever anyone questions the group think, even by contemplating voting for a 3rd party. No! they scream, the strongest way to punish the Democrats is to vote for the Hero John McCain!
And this:
Rupublicans ... are pouring a lot of resources into using it to keep the presidency & and take back congress. And they are doing very skillfully.
"Take back Congess"??? I think I'm going to have a case of the vapours! And this:
This is a high-quality, well organized rat-fuck, this years swiftboat.
(I don't think the writer is familiar with the conventional meanings of "ratfuck" and "swiftboat", either.)
Of course, some PUMAs will take reprisals on down-ticket Dems. Some will take the opposite tack. Some will mix and match. Nothing that would raise eyebrows there, to anyone who understands the nature of the grievance.
Oh, we understand the nature of the grievance.
... and a Republican mole ... and a warmonger .... and what else? A cheese-eating surrender monkey?
After enough decades, name-calling has a limited effect on progressive activists. You're late to the game.
Didn't you compare people on this thread as "brown shirts" downthread?
The major drama of the 20th century was the rise and fall of regimes that thought they could eliminate dissent by eliminating the expression of dissent. Some of their ideological heirs are still here.
Some of their ideological heirs are still here.
Obama would be Hitler then, huh?
Cute.
Oh, and is this your quote?
"Fight" doesn't mean "hide". Chickenshits. ¡Si, soy PUMA! by RonK Seattle on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 02:15:25 PM EST
Chickenshits.
¡Si, soy PUMA! by RonK Seattle on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 02:15:25 PM EST
2 hours earlier you wrote this rant.
Spare me the drama and stop playing victim please.
It's not working and your full of shit pal.
... not brownshirts (but I have referred elsewhere to the brownshirt mentality of Obama fanatics).
BTW, is the comment you cite (and the comments it refers to) still hidden?
It's not surprising to see you deny the obvious racism the PUMA movement is top-heavy with. It's sad, but it's not surprising.
Your hate is a sickness that blinds you to the truth.
That's progress, I suppose, in a post-racial, post-partisan kind of way.
Have you heard the news? Obama's "movement" has already gone post-movement ... while the "defining moment" has been downsized to just a "moment"!
And that includes the racism behind the PUMA movement. Deny it all you like; we can all see that it's there.
The fact that you're okay with it speaks volumes about your character.
For me, BO08's decision to make a mockery of racism for political advantage was the straw that broke the camel's back. It's what convinced me he's unfit to hold office. ANY office. Ever.
But it's water over the dam now. From Obama's day forward, accusations like yours -- true OR false -- are laughing stock.
You continue to throw out non-sequiturs, trying your best to avoid the subject. It's really getting pathetic.
The topic at hand is the racism at the heart of the PUMA movement. Either address the topic at hand or crawl back under your bridge.
Check out the irrational PUMA trying to pretend they have a real grievance. You sound like the spokesman for the People's front of Judea.
resourses
"Dems4McCain.info is also registered in a RED State, a very funky red state..... Arizona! McCain's home state! Ans what's even more astounding is:
clintondems.com,
hireheels.com,
gopumaparty.com
chicagoagainstobama.com
stop-obama.org
hillaryclintonforum.net- are all as well! They are all registered and launched in ARIZONA."
http://yestodemocracy.org/page/2/
... but willing to believe almost anything.
... in the past couple days postings.
And if I understand you correctly, you have been trolling the site and impersonating a PUMA supporter?
Reading
I find the workings of insanity, group think, and rovian manipulation fascinating.
I'm trying to spot which cutsie PUMA name is Karl himself. It is fun.
It's difficult for PUMA trolls to understand that we aren't doing the same thing. They want to believe that to justify their own trolling.
Personally, I like knowing what my enemies are up to. So long as I know it's not too effective, I'm not bothered. But I do get upset about the casual associations of Obama (and supporters) to: the holocaust ethnic cleansing Anne Frank The Gestapo Nazis and their ovens
They must be pretty unbalanced people if they really believe that's true. And if they don't then they're merely completely insensitive and callous.
