Take back the media from the mythiness

Let's make a few assumptions. The political media, particularly the national political media, particularly the national electronic political media, exist in a vast echo chamber. Someone picks up or makes up a concept-like thought and he says it out loud and everyone else hears and repeats it, and it soon takes on a life of its own, separate from its existence in reality-based reality.

That to me in a nut-shell is how a lot of the "stuff" we have shoved at us by pundits gain a life of their own.

There are those who believe that crafty political operatives plant these narratives with a friendly talking head, and I'm sure that happens. But I also think that misinterpretation, sloppiness, deadline pressure and quite possibly recreational drug abuse all go into the creation of bogus narratives.

Well, it is hard to add much to that except to point out the obvious example of Rush the Lush...

And seriously, crafty is being kind to some of those "operatives", mean-spirited and badly raised would be closer to describing some of them. Now can we all just stop regurgitating their BS? God, that would be a nice world!

Here's an example of a bogus narrative: When Hillary Clinton finally conceded, the story went around that many former Clinton supporters were going to vote for John McCain rather than the vile Barack Obama. Undoubtedly this idea was fueled by understandably bitter election-night comments from people who'd worked really hard for Clinton and were fueled by fatigue, frustration and frittatas.

But mostly people came to their senses after a good night's sleep, and never did any national poll indicate that Clinton-prone Democrats were going to defect to Walnuts!, as McCain is called in several political blogs. Some viral videos appeared on YouTube in which several women, allegedly Clinton supporters, said rude things about Obama, but the reality quotient of these videos was questionable at best. (Those elephants painting flowers, by contrast, are entirely real.)

Now to try to not violate Fair Use I won't post more, but he does go on about the hiring of Patti Solis Doyle, and Al Gore a bit, but he also tells those who feel the hiring is a "slap in the face" to chill out. Just sayin' :)

In any case I think Jon gets to the heart of the poo flinging that has been going on and how we contribute to it by flinging virtual poo all f'ing day on blogs. Have I flung my share? Sure have. Now how many others will fess up?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg i?file=/chronicle/archive/2008/06/19/DDB V11AREB.DTL



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Re: Someone had to nail it, and he did (1.00 / 1)

Those flower-painting elephants really are way cool.


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by BobzCat on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 11:41:43 PM EST

Re: Someone had to nail it, and he did (2.00 / 2)

um, OK?


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:14:13 AM EST
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Re: Someone had to nail it, and he did (2.00 / 2)

personally I think we can safely blame Canada and the frittatas :)


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:15:20 AM EST
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"Blame Canada!" (2.00 / 2)

Yeah baby! ;-)

Honestly, nice diary and happily recced.

This ties in well with the various MSM threads floating around here.  It touches on the need (that we are working on with all this bloggy-discussion-evolution stuff) to continue growing the blogosphere and encourage it to mash and mingle with the "MSM" until the two aren't as distinguishable as separate entities.

To be clear, the MSM did not suddenly "get bad".  History is saturated with single-source public information controlled by power brokers.  We truly are breaking ground with all this.

And we shouldn't do anything to slow it down.

In fact, crossing the line and engaging directly with the MSM from our vantage point is a great thing.  One of the fasctinating things for me about this election cycle has been the ability to communicate directly - and richly - with MSM personalities by way of email and blogs. It both humanizes them to average schmucks like me and makes the act of creating MSM content more reflective of society at large. One particular incident that sticks out was Olbermanès Bush Slam about giving up golf to honor soldiers.  A DKOS commentor produced video of Bush playing golf after he claimed to have stopped, which Olberman then used on the show, and commented back in his DKOS diary that this had come from the commenter.

Time to "stop fighting" the MSM.  Time to become it.

-chris


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by chrisblask on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 07:00:21 AM EST
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Re: Take back the media from the mythiness (2.00 / 1)

Wow...
Always ask yourself: In the real world, how outraged would I be by this? This is a particularly important question to ask if the tale concerns a candidate with whom you do not happen to agree. Reality should always trump partisanship, or we will go mad.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 11:52:45 PM EST

Re: Take back the media from the mythiness (2.00 / 1)

I've seen this said many times before. I've said it many times before. Nobody's really said it this well.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 11:55:07 PM EST
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Re: Take back the media from the mythiness (2.00 / 2)

I read Jon every day, sometimes it's about his cats (LOL) sometimes he just has enough and it comes out incredibly cogent and just strikes a chord for me.


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:13:11 AM EST
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Sometimes he nails it (2.00 / 1)

I've been reading him for years but have not been reading him lately. The Chronicle moves his column all over the datebook section and I fell out of habit.


by catfish2 on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 01:21:30 AM EST
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Re: Sometimes he nails it (2.00 / 1)

yeah, that PO'ed me too, now he is mostly on the 2nd page of the Datebook. I need my comics in the mornigs and Jon :)


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:06:42 PM EST
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hhmm... maybe not. (2.00 / 3)

Reality should always trump partisanship, or we will go mad.

its funny how winning creates a whole new re-telling as it were...  and by the by, while i dont disagree with the diary or the linked article i find the timing and framing a bit late in the game to be considered non-partisan.

and the bit about clinton supporters inaccurate.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26:20 AM EST

Re: hhmm... maybe not. (2.00 / 2)

oh and sorry about the blame Canada thing, just kidding...or am I?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:41:05 AM EST
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i dont get it... (2.00 / 1)

is it a south park thing?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:45:19 AM EST
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Re: i dont get it... (2.00 / 2)

kinda, which was spoofing Kids in the Hall I think


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:53:03 AM EST
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Re: i dont get it... (2.00 / 2)

slap me silly, I meant SCTV LOL


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:56:18 AM EST
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speaking of timing,,, (none / 0)

...a poll from late march?


by Casuist on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 01:30:19 AM EST
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Re: speaking of timing,,, (2.00 / 1)

there are more recent ones... and im not even saying that i personally believe them.  but the author states that this is not backed up by fact - and well there are several polls (including exit polls) that say otherwise.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 01:32:34 AM EST
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fair enough... (2.00 / 2)

I'm just saying that it's an arguable point... Even in the worst polls the vast majority of Clinton-supporting respondents said they would vote for Obama and vice-versa...

The head to head polls reflected disunity within the party but not really widespread defection, necessarily.

It was a real problem that warranted Obama reaching out to Clitnon supporters (as he has) and Clinton breaching the gap herself (as she has) but it's reasonable to say the media overplayed the topic, even with respect to the limited polling data available.


by Casuist on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 02:56:36 AM EST
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Re: fair enough... (2.00 / 1)

To me the PUMA folks are a fringe that just makes lots of noise and they do not represent any kind of coherent demographic.


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:08:29 PM EST
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Re: Take back the media from the mythiness (none / 0)

I wonder what the media line will be when Obama ignores HRC for the VP slot and picks Webb.


by handsomegent on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 08:48:49 AM EST

Poor word choice (none / 0)

Who's saying she would be ignored? She's certainly being considered, though she may not ultimately be selected. That's not ignoring her.


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by BobzCat on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 11:03:31 AM EST
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Re: Poor word choice (none / 0)

Since she's the OBVIOUS choice in the first place, the whole process is a big insult to her and her supporters.


by handsomegent on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:36:21 PM EST
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Re: Poor word choice (none / 0)

while as much as I like HRC and think she would make a dynamite VP, and while CW tells us she would be the "obvious" choice. Well, sometimes the obvious choice is not really the best one...I would love to see her in that spot but it has to be BHO's call.


by trytobereal on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:55:26 PM EST
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Re: Poor word choice (none / 0)

If you say so.


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by BobzCat on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:25:02 PM EST
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Re: Poor word choice (2.00 / 1)

don't worry about bob, he is a troll from dkos who just likes to insult and demean everyone else.


by zerosumgame on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:04:02 PM EST
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